well, as dizzy pretty much says, fuck that.
I am happy, or at the very least willing, to debate whether or not a certain act, behavior, word, or belief is inherently sexist or misogynistic. I am not, however, willing to debate the importance or necessity of feminism. Honestly, if you really truly think feminism is wrong, or that women just have it made these days and that we should suck it up and be grateful for the rights men have already granted us, then you’re a complete fucking tool. Period. No discussion necessary.
then she manages to summarize every conversation i've ever had with those smarmy, sanctimonious men - and they've been men of all ages, stripes, political affiliations and purported intellect levels - who think feminism is kind of passé but really want to, you know, discuss it.
I know it must be hard to fathom that a girl doesn’t care what a smart man thinks about the thing that she cares most about in the world, or that there’s a movement that exists that doesn’t much take into consideration what men have to say on the topic. I know I’m supposed to 1) nod thoughtfully as I process your wisdom, asking clarifying questions about your points just in case I don’t immediately understand something you say, and then 2) offer up some powerful and intelligent argument on why feminism is important, and then 3) try to prove my point with examples from women in politics and a few stories about my grandmother, but of course, in the end, 4) concede that yes, you have some very good points that I will certainly think about, and thank you for educating me about feminism and correcting me on those things I didn’t fully understand about women and the world.
Well, that conversation has been had before and is a bullshit boring ass waste of time that does absolutely nothing for anyone.
bullshit boring ass waste of time. thank you. it took me a good ten years, i'd say, to realize that i was under no obligation to dialogue like this! i actually don't have to engage dismissers of feminism at all if i don't feel like it! such a small realization, and yet such a big rush of power. you really, honestly interested in learning about why feminism is not only still relevant, but still necessary? well, go get a public library card, head for Section HQ1101, and bring some stenopads. i've got better things to do.